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Victoria Nuland ist stellvertretende Staatssekretärin im US-Außenministerium und dort „for European and Eurasian Affairs“ zuständig, also auch die EU. Der SPIEGEL bezeichnet Nuland als Obamas wichtigste Europaberaterin. In der Ei­gen­schaft hat Nuland mit Geoffrey R. Pyatt, Botschafter der USA in der Ukraine telefoniert, um auszuloten, wen man in der Ukraine denn so an die Macht brin­gen könn­te. Das Telefonat ist abge­hört wor­den und ano­nym auf You­Tube ins Netz ge­stellt wor­den. Nuland weiß da­von und hat in einer Stel­lung­nah­me die Au­then­ti­zi­tät des Fol­gen­den nicht be­strit­ten. Am En­de des Te­le­fo­nats ver­rät Nuland, was sie von der EU hält: „Fuck the EU„, was in Zu­sam­men­hang be­deu­ten soll: „Vergiss die EU

TRANSKRIPT:

    Nuland: Whaddya think?

    Pyatt: I think we’re in play the Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here. Especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you’ve seen my notes on the trouble in the marriage right now so we’re trying to get a read really fast where he is on this stuff. But I think your ar­gu­ment to him which you’ll need to make, I think that’s the next phone call you want to set up is exactly the one you made to (nickname for Ya­tse­niuk). And I’m glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this sce­nario. And I’m very glad that he said what he said in response.

    Nuland: Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s a good idea.

    Pyatt: Yeah. I guess… in terms of him not going into the government let him stay out and do his political homework and stuff i“m just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead we want to keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is going to be Tiahnybok and his guys and I’m sure that’s part of what Yanukovych is calculating on all this.

    Nuland: (Breaks in) I think Yats is the guy that who’s got the economic ex­pe­rience the governing experience he’s the… what he needs is Klitsch and Tiah­ny­bok (Oleh, leader of a nationalist party who has been push­ing con­fron­tation with the Ukrainian government) on the outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week you know. I just think Klitch going in he’s going to be at that level working for Yatsinyuk it’s just not going to work.

    Pyatt: Yeah, no, I think that’s right. Ok. Good. Do you want us to set up a call with him as the next step?

    Nuland: My understanding from that call that you tell me was that the big three were going into their own meeting and that Yats was going to offer in that context a… three plus one conversation or three plus two with you. Is that not how you understood it?

    Pyatt: No. I mean I think that’s what he proposed but I think just knowing the dynamic that’s been with them where Klitschko has been the top dog, he’s going to take a while to shop up for whatever meetings they’ve got and he’s probably talking to his guys at this point so I think you reaching out di­rect­ly to him helps with the personality management among the three and it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this stuff and put us behind it be­fore they all sit down and he explains why he doesn’t like it.

    Nuland: Ok, good. I’m happy. why don’t you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after.

    Pyatt: Ok, will do. Thanks.

    Nuland: Ok… one more wrinkle for you Jeff. I can’t remember if I told you this or if I only told Washington this that when I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning he had a new name for the UN guy Robert Serry did I write you that this morning?

    Pyatt: Yeah I saw that.

    Nuland: Ok. He’s now gotten both Serry and Ban ki-Moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. That would be great I think to help glue this thing and to have the UN help glue it and, you know, Fuck the EU.

    Pyatt: No, exactly. And I think we’ve got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain al­ti­tude that the Russians will working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. And again the fact that this is out there right now, I’m still trying to figure out in my mind why Yanukovych (garbled) that. In the meantime there’s a Party of Regions faction meeting going on right now and I’m sure there’s a lively argument going on in that group at this point. But anyway we could land jelly side up on this one if we move fast. So let me work on Klitschko and if you can just keep… we want to try to get somebody with an in­ter­na­tio­nal per­sonality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych but we probably re­group on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.

    Nuland: So on that piece Jeff when I wrote the note Sullivan’s come back to me VFR saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta boy and to get the deets (details) to stick. So Biden’s willing.

    Pyatt: Ok. Great. Thanks.

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